City and County of San Francisco Thursday, June 04, 2020

>> the items before us today

were recess from the June 2, 2020, board meeting.

Will you please call the roll.

[Roll call].

[Roll call] Supervisor safai?

I will come back.

[Roll call]. Supervisor yee is present and supervisor safai? Mr. President, you have a quorum.

>> thank you very much. Please place your right hand over your heart.

Will you please join me in

reciting the pledge of allegiance.

[Reciting pledge of allegiance]. >> okay. Thank you. On behalf of the board I would

like to acknowledge sfgtv for recording each of our meetings and make the transcripts

available to the public online.

>> Mr. President, I have two communications.

The minutes will reflect that since covid-19 pandemic the board of supervisors have been

conducting their meetings

through video conference, and

present as if they were in their chamber.

Around 9:23 this morning my

office received a proclamation

from the mayor terminating the

local emergency issued on May

31, 2020, and the curfew order

is terminated effective immediately.

That is directly has significant ram ramification on the motions that are before this body.

Because the board recessed tuesday's meeting for the two items just mentioned, the board is reconvening in order to take actions on these two motions

that were introduced by

President Yee and to formally adjourn the meeting. Public comment was satisfied on tuesday.

If the members of the public, if you are interested in following

along, you can watch channel 26 or watch the internet by going

to our website at sfgov.Org.

If you want to listen by phone,

you're welcome to call

415-655-0001 and enter the

access code 1458162064, press pound twice, and you will be able to listen to the meeting with your cellphone.

Mr. President, we do have a communication from supervisor

walton asking if he could be

excused from the board meeting today.

>> thank you, Madam Clerk.

Just one point of clarification.

Would we have to take general public comments at the end of the meeting? >> no, Mr. President.

This is a recessed meeting, and

the public comment actually

occurred on tuesday afternoon. >> thank you for the clarification. >> you're welcome. >> before we get started, just a

friendly reminder for all the supervisors to mute their microphones when you are not

speaking to avoid audio feedback.

Can I have a motion to excuse

supervisor walton for attending

today's meeting [Indiscernible]. >> so moved.

>> motion. >> so moved by supervisor peskin

and seconded by supervisor preston. >> yes. >> I'm here.

Sorry, I'm late. >> thanks.

>> we will mark you down as late.

>> mark him down as inappropriately dressed.

>> oh, look who's talking.

>> and inappropriately in the wrong office.

Okay, let's have a roll call on that.

[Roll call].

[Roll call].

>> there are ten ayes.

>> okay, this motion passes. Supervisor walton?

>> Madam Clerk, let's go to our unfinished business.

Please return to items 1 and 2 together. >> okay.

Item no. 1 is a motion to concur

on the May 31, 2020 proclamation by mayor london breed declaring the existence of a local emergency related to the conditions of extreme -- soth

safety of persons and property, and item two was a motion

concurring in the mayor's action

to establish the current view to

leave the state of emergency in place.

>> colleagues, as you know, the

mayor has declared an end of the

emergency and the curfew as of 5

A.M. This morning, I believe.

And [Indiscernible] I would like to take advantage of some

updates on what occurred last night.

It was one of the larger

demonstrations that we had had

regarding the last week or so. It would be good for us to hear

if there was any incidents that we should know about.

And so I'm really glad that I

was able to hear from chief

scott from the police

department, and also

under-sheriff matthew freeman was here and also [Indiscernible] Is also here

today to answer any questions on this item.

Maybe I could call on chief

scott at this point to maybe

talk about what occurred last

night and so forth. Chief scott?

>> thank you, President Yee, and

thank you members of the board to have me on again today to

give you a recap of what occurred last night. So I also want to start by

thanking all of you for your

support over the last week, and always. Yesterday we had a demonstration

that started out at 18th and

dolores at about 3 P.M. We knew that this event was

going to occur.

It had been well publicized. We had heard from the sources of

information that we had, we expected a very large attendance. We didn't know what exactly very

large meant, but we knew that there would be a lot of response

to this protest and this March yesterday.

At 3:00 people started to

assemble, and the March went to basically mission police station.

Now as the day progressed, we

don't have a -- we don't have an

exact crowd size, but there were thousands of individuals. As President Yee stated, it was

probably one of the larger demonstrations that anybody could remember, and I'm sure

probably everybody, like I did,

saw the overhead news helicopter

footage of the crowd size, which was significant. This demonstration, this President, by and large, people

were there for the same issue

that has been gripping our

country over the past week or so following the death of Mr. George floyd, and most of

the protesters were there to

demonstrate that issue. We also learned through feedback

and input from the community

that many of the protesters were also there to actually protest the fact that the city and

county of san francisco had a curfew. We understood there were a couple of dynamics, if not more, that were motivating people to be out there.

Our priority from the start was to facilitate -- activities of the protesters, to protect lives, as it always is, to protect property, to ensure that we had order in our town during the protest and make sure that

we were there to address any

civil unrest, if that occurred.

I must say that by and large overwhelmingly it was uneventful. The protest did move to the

civic center area. It also -- [Indiscernible] Put out as a protest and a walk

through the streets of san francisco.

At the end of all of this, when

everything boils down, there

were protesters that went back to mission station, probably several hundred, to say the least, went back to mission station at the end of the

protest to continue protesting. Now all those protests were by

and large peaceful.

there were sporadic incidents of protesters throwing objects,

bottles and rocks and the like,

at the officers who were

assigned to protect the protesters, and there was at

least one instance of a

vandalism of a vehicle that happened. There May be other reports, but that's what we know about right now.

So by and large they were peaceful, very, very

good-spirited crowd, very peaceful.

And our officers were facilitators. We had our motorcycle officers

and our patrol officers out there and our command staff and

our captains that were out there supervising and overseeing these protests. A couple of things I want to point out and I'm going to wrap

this up for questions, our

officers had on their personal protective equipment pretty much during the whole event, and just

so the board and the public is

aware as to why that was, we feel we are in the grip of a

country that is very frustrated

and angry.

And what we have seen since the start of these protests, and each and every one of them, there is at least one point where an officer is assaulted either by an object being thrown at him or her or other types of assault. So we expected that to happen

last night, and it did.

So our officers had on the personal protective equipment, the helmets and the like to make sure that we keep our officers

safe from harm's way. we know with the public that sends a certain image.

You know, some people like to call that equipment riot gear,

but I want the public to understand the reason, the why

behind why we came out with that equipment on. And for good reason. The other thing that I want to talk about is the curfew,

because I know that was an issue. At the end of the event,

around -- somewhere between 10

and 11:00, it culminated with

less than 100 people out, and in

that group, some of the

individuals in that group began to dump garbage on the streets, and within that same group other individuals were trying to clean it up. That group actually splintered,

and about half of that group went to dolores park and remained peaceful, and we let

them do whatever they wanted to do, as long as they remained peaceful, we didn't bother them. The other half stayed in the street, in the area of 24

mission, or in that vicinity, anyway. Our officers during this course

of the night observed what they believed to be protesters

with -- in the possession of accelerants, lighter fluid or something of that nature. We don't know because we weren't

able to make any arrest to confirm that, but that's what they observed. There were two fires previously during the night, one at the hall of justice where an american flag was burned and one where garbage was burned.

So we already knew that somebody in that crowd had the propensity to light fires. At the end of the night, when this group boiled down to probably less than 30 -- it was

less than 30, actually, we

started to see the garbage being

dumped in the street, and again, officers at the scene believe

that there was an attempt to start fires. At that time, the incident

commander or the person in charge of that particular scene

decided to arrest those individuals, and those arrests were made.

Those arrests were made under the curfew ordinance. Out of those, 23 -- 26 people

were detained, 23 were cited, and one was a juvenile.

That juvenile was never handcuffed. That juvenile was released, was

taken to a station and released to a responsible party, and the other 23 were cited and released.

There were no uses of force

during that part of the event. There was -- that part was once we made the decision to arrest, it was uneventful.

But I want to reiterate the reason that that decision was made.

It was because we believed that destruction and the danger of

fires being lit was imminent, and the person in charge made

the decision and failed to take that action.

The captain is here with me.

He was out in the field, seeing, hearing and feeling what was happening. I have him available if enough any questions for him. But at this point, I will turn the floor back over to the President For any questions that

you all May have of me. >> okay, thank you, chief scott.

Before we get into questions, I

have received a few claegs on the roster -- colleagues on the roster. What I don't want to get lost is

I really want to thank the

organizers that put the rally, the demonstration together

yesterday stressing that they

wanted to have a peaceful

demonstration, and not only was it -- for the most part what I saw was pretty peaceful. They were able to get 10,000 people to come to this. A lot of credit I want to give

to whoever the youth organizers were.

So just really want to get that -- don't want to have that

get lost into our discussion.

Before I get to my colleagues, I

guess, under-sheriff, did you have any comments?

>> President Yee, members of the board, chief scott, thank you for the opportunity to address you today.

I am standing in for sheriff yamamoto who unfortunately was called away on a personal matter. The sheriff's office department operations center has been

active for well over two months

in response to the pandemic, and

in recent days we have activated

our emergency services unit, law enforcement mobile field force

and response to the civil unrest

and some act of civil disobedience occurring in the county and city of san francisco.

Last night the sheriff's department emergency services

unit deployed in defence of san francisco city hall, the hall of

justice, and in response to

mutual aid from region two coordinator almeda county sheriff's office to support the

oakland police department.

I can tell you that the demonstrations in oakland were very peaceful, and the platoon that we sent there, while they were put on lines, there was no

use of force. The crowd was in very good

order, very peaceful, and that

platoon returned fully in tact, once again with no uses of force, no staff injuries, and a

very peaceful demonstration.

The platoon that was on the line

in defence of city hall did a

fantastic job in defence of the building.

We encountered very minimal graffiti on the sidewalks surrounding city hall, and it's

my understanding that that has already been cleaned up.

Unfortunately we did have a couple of unfortunate incidents.

A sheriff's department unmarked police vehicle had an incendiary

device thrown on it, and there

was a fire. There was significant damage to the vehicle. An investigation is under way.

I can tell you that that incident occurred sometime before any protesters actually arrived at city hall, and an

investigation is under way.

A sheriff's department marked

police vehicle was spray painted. The sheriff's department has made an arrest in that matter,

and that arrest was made without

incident. Sheriff's department emergency unit also responded to the hall

of justice in defence of the

H.O.J. And worked very well in concert with the san francisco police department and district station captains in that area.

We also had very good

collaboration and coordination with the district station in the

northern and the district station captain, as well as the mutual resources that were

brought in out of county and requested through the police department.

Also encouraging was in response to the defence of the hall of

justice, non-members of the emergency services unit deputy sheriffs from our courts,

community programs and jail facilities were successful in deployment and taking up

defensive positions of the H.O.J.

The sheriff's department, other

than the one arrest for the graffiti on our vehicle, that was the sole arrest.

There was no uses of force last night, and although we --

although the crowds were very

loud and very passionate, by and

large it was peaceful and uneventful.

Thank you very much.

>> thank you. Do you have any comments at all? >> thank you, President Yee. No, not at the time.

>> all right.

You have to make a comment. Just joking.

Let's turn to my colleagues now. Supervisor haney, you're up first.

>> thank you, President Yee. Thank you, chief and deputy sheriff or under-sheriff, for being here.

you know, I just first want to also thank the youth organizers

and the many thousands of protesters who were out yesterday. I was there and was just blown

away by what was one of the more

extraordinary and powerful demonstrations that I've ever

seen or been a part of in san francisco. As you said, it was

overwhelmingly peaceful. It was very strong and direct in

the messaging, and defence absolutely youth led.

I think it also demonstrated very clearly why exactly the curfew needed to be lifted and

why curfews themselves are

ineffective and even dangerous ways to limit peaceful protest

and free speech. I know that many people were terrified as 8:00 got closer and

there were still thousands of

people out on the streets.

It is just very concerning to think that the law would have

allowed us to arrest people just

for being out there at that time when obviously this is something that we should be promoting.

This is something we should be supporting.

And I appreciate you, chief, sharing from your experience what happened last night.

I do think, President, respectfully that it is

important to hear from others as well. And I would respectfully ask

that we open up for public

comment and hear from people about the experience yesterday

and more about their perspective on the curfew. I think it's important that based on what I saw and what i heard from people who were out there, that they have an opportunity to share with us.

It is important that we hear from our police chief. It's equally if not more

important that we hear from the people of the city.

I would make that request, and I have a few questions for the chief, but I don't know if you

want to wait to respond to that, President. >> well, I can respond right now.

If there's no objection, I'll open it up.

I ask my colleagues, is there any objections?

Okay, then I will do so when

it's appropriate, okay? >> thank you. Appreciate that.

I wanted to ask just a couple questions, chief.

One is about what seemed to be

based on the reports that I saw

and heard, and I think it was a part of the incident that you

mentioned, a journalist, a

well-known journalist in san

francisco who was at least detained and maybe even threatened in other ways,

threatened with arrest.

Can you speak to that particular incident? And in general the commitment

that I hope you can give to

protect the rights of journalists, you know,

journalists who are unable to -- whether it's during a curfew or not, be out reporting on things

that are happening is one of the most critical rights that we have in this country, and when

we start detaining or arresting

journalists, that goes into the realm of authoritarian police states. I'd love to hear your policies on that and how we can make sure

that something like that does not happen again. >> sure. Chief? >> thank you, President.

And supervisor haney, yes, thank you. So during that last portion,

there was a journalist among the crowd, and he was detained

briefly, probably for about 20 minutes. I can tell you this.

To your question about a policy, journalists have a right to be anywhere else that the public

has a right to be. And of course nobody's excluded

from committing a crime, but in

terms of curfew, our department bulletin or our department

notice laying out the curfew

policies and the guidelines,

journalists are excluded from curfew enforcement.

So I hope that answers the first

part of your question.

In the event a journalist is detained, the course of action

is to confirm that the person is

a journalist and release them if

no crime has been committed.

In this case last night, there

was a lot of things going on,

and as soon as that person was confirmed to be a journalist, that person was released. So there are some things that,

looking at this critically, that we need to do better.

I mean, in a tactical situation,

there is a lot going on, and there are things that when officers are on the line they have to make a split-second

decision as to how to most

safely do what they're doing. because with journalists, it's

complicated, to be quite frank with you. One of the things that I hope to

do moving forward, I know you've

already started this process, is to keep the dialogue open with members of the media so we can understand how best to work with

each other to keep each other safe.

When you have your focus on a situation that you believe to be

a dangerous situation or an

individual that you are

attempting to detain or arrest, you can be distracted from that. I hope everyone listening to this understands that. First and foremost our objective is to keep people safe. We have to do that within the first amendment rights of journalists. I totally understand that, but I think there's some room for

dialogue on this so we can work

with members of the media on these type of situations so we can at least advise what would

be helpful to have less of these situations occurring. I have been watching the news,

just like most everybody else, and this has been occurring in a lot of places. And it's complicated because

there's a lot of chaos out there during these situations where

you have protests, particularly

when they turn violent. I am making no excuses. One of the things to do better is really communicate and

dialogue with journalists and hopefully have some common ground on how we can work together to keep them safe, keep the public safe and keep the officers safe. just imagine this, if you have

in front of you a person that you believe to be involved in

whatever activity you believe

them to be involved in and you have to address that situation,

the last thing you want is

somebody right behind you who, journalist or not, it's a distraction. And that's something that I want

to put on everybody's mind, that it's very difficult sometimes

when you're in that situation. It's very fluid.

And again, no mistakes are excusable, but we can work through these things and make sure that we have some understanding. I think a lot of that is sitting down with the journalists. We have already begun to do that, and have some understanding about how we can

work together in these

situations. >> thank you, I appreciate that. It does seem like when a journalist identifies themselves that that should be respected

and treated accordingly to the rules at that point in terms of their ability to be there.

But it sounds like you are

working on how best to do that

and make it clear.

>> absolutely. Thank you.

And absolutely when the

journalist identifies themselves what I know at this point is at that point things could have been done a little bit more

smoothly as far as what the expectations are to keep everybody safe.

[Please stand by]

>> there are no numbers I have for you and we're tracking all

of that. Including the state has a responsible providing the additional support of tracking net but, we are logging the

hours that officers are here and

working in our city and we're

tracking and it's going to be

very difficult to separate what is currently

currency related and what's not.

It's canceled for the event and enforcement is part of that and

the majority, the va majority of has been during situations where

violence is occurring or very imminently about to occur.

So we can definitely track that

in terms of how we use the curfew violations to prevent

further violence or prevent violence from occurring because

those incidents are very

separate and they're well documents. How much of this is being paid

for and any of it paid for by the state. You have an estimate on how much this is going to cost or will

cost the city and county of san francisco. >> thank you, supervisor.

We do not yet have a costing for

the overtime requirements and I

way mutual aid works typically

it is covered by the home department and then the state will reimburse them through fema

or some other way so at this point I did not expect our city

to do the cost of the mutual aid officers and we will get back to you with an answer of the

overtime and the like.

>> ok. I'll let others.

Thank you.

>> thank you, President Yee.

i just wanted to commend the

organizers of yesterday's

protest and it was really one of

the most beautiful protest I've attended in san francisco.

I have to say I was just in awe

of the fact that every single person, I did not see one person

who wasn't wearing a mask.

For that many people to be in this street and have that

perfect compliance health order

is truly nothing short of

extraordinary and so, I again, just want to say that my spirits

have been so lifted by our youth

who are leading the way during

than this major term oil and also opportunity to change

policing and tactics in the city and country.

To scott, you and I had an

opportunity to speak a few minutes ago and I had left a

message for the captain.

I was able to talk to julie an marks this morning, the journalist who was detained by

the police and told a very different story than the one we heard. I've been texting back and fourth with him and he is going

to call into public comment. I won't speak for him I'll let

him speak for himself. I too was really concerned about

the way in which Mr. Mark was treated.

He was wearing his police-issued

journalist badge, very prominently and was, according

to him, shoved by a police

officer into the crowd of

protestors that were surrounded

and so he was unable to exit or to leave.

And, that of course is very

concerning to us.

I just wanted to make that point

and then I look forward from him directly when he calls in.

Thank you so much.

>> thank you. >> I was going to invoke the

matter but supervisor

supervisor haney

asked enough questions so I have

no questions.

>> most of my questions were asked and answered, thank you to my colleagues.

I too was out there yesterday

and absolutely inspired by the activism.

I was also impressed at the

incredible compliance with the mask order. I didn't seem people oust

thousands not wearing a mask and it was incredible. I did have one question, just around the decision-making

process yesterday for the chief.

Specifically, curious why the

curfew order was not lifted

yesterday before the large protest that was planned.

That obviously was a decision, I understand there are a lot of moving parts and different jurisdictions handled that differently but we learned

earlier in the day, by tweet

from the mayor, that there was a plan to lift the curfew which was welcome news to many of us on the board and certainly to

many activists but obviously a decision was made somewhere along the way to leave it in place. In contrast, for example, in seattle, where they were facing

a similar situation where they

actually lifted the curfew entering into the evening hours. If you can just address the

thinking why it was not lifted yesterday.

>> yes, thank you supervisor preston.

The thinking on the curfew

yesterday as far as my recommendations, and let me

start by saying I also want to

thank you for organizing this protest.

It gets to the point of what we

hope would happen but weren't sure. It was a peaceful protest. Because of their organization

and their spirit, we had a peaceful protest. This time yesterday, we had no idea what we were going to have. What we did know is that we were going to have a lot of people.

What we also did know was that

there were hateful messages circulating in social media about other people who were

intending to come and do harm.

We don't broadcast those things. When we know about them because

we don't want to. >> unless there's a public safety reasons where we have to. What I need the group to understand is sometimes there are things we know that for good

reason, we can't put out in public.

Number one, to panic people and

secondly because we need to vet these things out before we act on them. There are a lot of things out there in the social media world that were alarming. We didn't know or don't know what is real and what's not real and what is going to be acted on

and what's not acted out on.

So getting to the curfew answer, I believe in my professional

opinion, that having that curfew tool, in the event that some of the things that we were hearing

about came to fruition, gave us the ability to keep order to

keep people safe.

As what didn't get discussed on

tuesday, every day we have had discussions about how long this things should go. What do we know? What we don't know.

What do we not know. This is a very thoughtful process. Now, after than this event, it

was sort of a liteness test for us.

We didn't enforce on the curfew until the end when the event was

actually over and we believe

there was a criminal activity

that would damage supervisor ronen's district. It was sil a good tool last night because there were no fires set and no one had property damage from that and I strongly believe it was the right decision to make, given all the debate about the first amendment activities. I understand it. But that's what went into the thinking.

Now we have a much better, in

any opinion, a much better track

record to say yeah, we had our liteness test and we believe these things can happen peacefully. If we get information that indicates otherwise, we'll be the first to try to put in measures for those bad things

not to happen.

You have to take this situation

into tally how this trance wires. Last night we did get a really

good outcome and there were things on our radar that none of you were aware of and it's something that happens in policing and law enforcement and

it's always going to happen. I would hope that you would

trust your police department to

be responsible when we have information that we might not be able to put out for various

reasons and we need to be taking precaution and that goes into our decision-making.

And my decision-making.

>> thank you chief scott and just a comment.

I don't want to lose sight. It's an extraordinary exercise

of power to impose curfew.

I think everyday matters. Certainly we're pleased it has been lifted and I want to

recognize that I think it's important that whoever, whether

the mayor, yourself, and others

put your heads together and made

the determination to lift the

curfew, that's appreciated and was appropriate.

I don't want to lose sight of recognizes some of the considerations you've raised but I'm very concerned that we had

dozens of arrests of my understanding folks who sold

illegal activities was being out

and protesting that that is concerning.

I share the concern around the

journalists who was detained and

I also want to note that were

many likely people that did not attend and if they did attend

did not say because of the curfew.

So, while we are all, I think celebrating, the extent of participation in this, I think we also need to recognize that

the curfew does in fact

discourage people from going out and exercising the rights, particularly folks who did not want to risk arrest.

I just don't want that to get lost and thank you for being here and answering our

questions, I appreciate it. >> thank you, very much, supervisor preston and thank you

for your comments.

>> thank you, very much.

Madam Clerk, do I need to rescind closing the public

comments at this point? >> thank you. The board of supervisors has

already closed public comment. Typically, when you close public

comment, you are able to reopen public comment at the same

meeting or at recessed meetings. However, when you continue these

items to the recessed meeting

you did not include public comment.

We put a blurb on the agenda stating ta public comment had been satisfied.

At the very least, the board should take an affirmative vote

to reopen public comment.

>> can I have a motion to -- >> it's not.

I just want to make one more comment.

Some May say that you May even

want to request public comment and continue that public comment

for another day. There were individuals who might

have seen the blurb on the agenda and would have wanted to call in today but May not

because they saw the blurb on

the agenda that that is my other concern.

>> I'd like to have a motion to open up public comment again.

Second part of it, Madam Clerk, is to continue the public

comment to our next meeting. >> fur aking on these items today, the need for that public comment goes away.

The need doesn't ever go way on

these issues but for these two items.

Perhaps there is another --

perhaps it can be satisfied today.

>> I think it's ok.

I'll make a motion and leave it at that because at our next meeting we'll have public comment anyway.

They can comment on the protest.

I think that's the main comments that we're going to hear today

and probably a less about these items. >> we want to preserve everybody's rights. >> I understand.

I appreciate it. Supervisor haney, would you like to make a motion. >> to reopen public comment. >> is from a

there a second. >> known

>> the motion to reopen public

comment -- [Roll call] >> there are 10 AYEs.

>> ok, so motion passes to reopen the public comment. Before we get to the public

comment, I want to make sure

that the public understands what

the parameter for this it's not

to -- this is not general public comment.

We have two things so it should

be related to the emergency

order or the curfew or yes, I

will just leave it at that.

We're not talking about other things. Ok. Madam Clerk, can we see if

anybody is actually on there.

>> I'd like to provide the telephone number.

Folks have my staff at sfgovtv have changed the slides on the

website in addition to channel

26 to have the telephone numbers

scrawl across the sing. 655-0001 and when prompted enter

145:  816-2064.

Press pound twice to get into the cue dial star and nine. Do we have anyone waiting in the cue? >> yes I have a number of callers. I will cue the first caller. >> great. Thank you.

>> welcome caller, you have to

two minutes.

>> hello I'm a resident of

district nine and I'm just calling to share how

disappointed I am that the six

supervisors who failed to act to end the curfew on tuesday, when

you had the opportunity to,

spouting at times and and fear for quote and simultaneously

acting within your power and

enacting to deprive of us.

Your constituents are keeping

tabs of your actions more than ever.

As a new political consciousness is arising in your districts and come November, those of you

hoping to be re-elected in odd number districts will be held accountable for your inaction to protect the rights of your most

disadvantages and marginalized constituents and certain views

and the police chiefs had neither the face nor the trust

in your citizens to protest to take care of our cities and ourselves. How out of touch you all are with brown and black communities and especially the use of the

city and we wish you would show

as much care of lives of state

sponsored black bodies and

decimated and communities and as

you do about spraypainted

buildings and knocked over trash cans. Thank you. >> thank you for your comments.

Next speaker, please. >> hello. Welcome caller.

You have up to two minutes.

My name is julie an mark I'm the

reporter with mission local that

the board has been talking about. Thank you board.

Thank you supervisors for having

me and thank you chief scott for hearing me out.

To be honest, I never thought I would be a public commenter and I'm a little nervous and terrified right now.

I just wanted to give a quick account of what happened and I

do think that my rights were

violated quite a bit. The day ended without incident

and the sfpd did a fantastic job of letting the protestors protest, which I thought was

extremely impressive and I saw a large, large number of officers, dozens of officers marching down

mission street towards a few

protestors that to me did not seem to be a threat to property or anybody else. I did not see what they were doing before. From the looks of things, they

did not look like criminals.

When I went down to take the

video and I don't have officers that had my press badge. I held it up in front of

officers letting them know what

I had and it had your signature,

chief, on it and so I think

there was no it was unequivocal

and not only were right and also

my fourth amendment rights as

you did and suspicion that it

was because I was I journalist.

I want to say thank you for in

inviting for some of the body and I was not trying to get out

of the way and at least twice

into that protester area and it was a bit terrifying. I want to -- really this is not about me and I reel just want to say that it was important that I was there.

I think it was important to show what was happening, especially

to just a handful of college-age protestors.

I just want to also ask a question that supervisors should ask. What happened to those people?

And that's really all I have to say.

>> supervisor yee, can I ask a

clarifying question?

>> I'm sorry, was that supervisor ronen? >> yes. >> are you still there?

>> yes, I am.

>> I was wondering if you could clarify what you heard and saw

of the protestors around you?

>> yes, so, really, I believe

that I was on the ground for 30 to 35 minutes with them.

Just looking back at the time

stamps of my tweets.

The entire time they were begging to go home. They wanted to go home.

They were scared. They were crying out to officers

who were, you know, just, I mean, there were just so many.

It seemed like the.

>> did the officers respond when

the people screamed to go just

go home? There was a gentleman up and about trying to convince the

officers to let them go but he

was I believe the captain was there to hear that. >> were you ordered to the ground?

>> it was -- I was -- I can't

say there was a definitive order

and I wasn't particularly threatened or told under the

sort of the threat of forced to get belly down.

In fact, I did at certain points

get up to be able to write my messages and report.

There was an officer who was

pointing, actively pointing a

tear gas begun at us at a certain point and for what reason it was, I'm not sure.

>> and how do you know it was a

tear gas gun?

>> I don't know it was a tear gas gun. It looked like a tear gas gun.

Did did not like like a firearm that would shoot bullets. >> were the other protests

ordered to lay on the ground?

>> I don't remember the order but that -- it seems like that

is exactly what I apologize I

don't remember and.

Was anyone on handcuffs.

They were tied as they were

taken away.

Do any of my other colleagues.

>> -- supervisor peskin. Thank you. >> I am done.

>> go ahead.

>> thank you, President Yee and thank you supervisor ronen for that question. One of the things I was going to bring up earlier and I'll bring

up again, because the journalist

that just spoke actually said

that he had of a press badge

that had been signed by chief scott. I don't know how many of you on

the board a few years ago when I had hearings and introduced

legislation that the department

actually opposed -- david

stevenson was the P.I.O. Or governmental affairs person at

the time were in the department

was not issuing press certifications for a long period of time.

I'd like to get clarification, chief scott, are you now back in

the business of issuing press badges?

Is that what I've just come to

understand?

>> supervisor peskin, to answer

your question, the protocol was

revamped during that time and there's some loopholes tight end

up and the press pass protocols so the renewals have never stopped.

When a person has a press pass,

they have to get renewals --

periodically so the renewals have never stopped.

If a person has a press pass, it's been our practise if

they've had one in the past, to grandfather in. Some people who had them in the

past would not qualify currently for the press pass but the renewal never stopped so there's

a process for renewals. I don't know how long he had his press pass. That goes through the P.I.O. Office and basically they're stamped with my signature stamp

if it's renewed and I hope that answers your question. >> not to go into a different

realm of policy but I'll circle why I'm asking this question.

You are saying that you do not,

as a matter of policy, issue press bangs to

bangs

badges but you renew to people who existed before your tenure as chief, is that correct? >> let me clarify.

I have not signed a press pass,

a new application in the three

plus years I've been here but I will claw fie in a

clarify.

I have not personally signed one. I know we have revamped the procedures. The renewals have had it happen.

The director in charge of the

press office has the authority

to make those renewals because they vet the press information. I have not signed a new President Pass in the three years that I've been here.

I will clarify that and second

it and I will let President Yee know when I have that

that information for you.

>> Mr. Mark, when did you obtain your press badge?

>> I can't tell you exactly when

but it was in 2019.

>> so you were issued a press

badge that has the stamp of the

police of chief and you did not

have a press badge prior to that, is that correct? >> I believe that is the case, I

believe I first obtained a sfpd authorized press badge in the year 2019. >> thank you, Mr. Mark. Chief scott, through the President, what training do you

give your officers relative to

members of the press who have or claim to have press credentials

in the city and county of san francisco relative to their

handling in this or any other situation?

>> supervisor, there's a

department >> there's an informational sheet we pass out to the news media and this information is shared with our department on what other press pass, who qualifies for a press pass, how to complete the application and renewing.

So this information is both

internally shared and externally shared.

I hope that answers your questions. I believe he does not know about

the situation and with

Mr. Stevenson and the year 2016

where you stopped issuing press passes and all the direction

that you indicate a earlier I believe was correct and there

May have been some reversal at

that policy and it was deeply

troubling tempt and I attempted to legislate over those

practises in your department and

your department previously to

your tenure was highly resistant

to those changes and I think particularly in light of this

and the case, it's time to sit

down and figure out rules to the road not only around the

issuance of press passes to the President Core of san francisco

and the issue of the time was whether bloggers were or not

legitimate members of the press

and as well as how the as well as how they handle the large scale situations over the next couple days and other situations including but not

limited to what we saw in around brian carbon monoxide on deso i

look forward to working with you personally and Mr. Doors see

personally and my staff to crack

legislation moving forward but

as I said on tuesday, this

entire curfew relative to the first and fourth amendments of

the united states constitutions

has been very difficult for all

of us so I would like to work with you and your colleagues and

my staff to figure out how the

sfpd deals with the President

Appropriately going forward that concludes my questions and remarks. >> ok.

Then moving onto the next speaker. Is there another caller in the cue.

You have up to two minutes. >> I'm concerned about chief

scott's characterization earlier

of 60 cops rounding up a dozen kids as a practical situation. It was only a tatical situation because you made it one. You couldn't let them go home. Going home is one of the activities that was allowed by the curfew.

These kids were going home. As they said earlier they needed

to go home. Y'all could have let them go home. Put them in a squad car if you think it's a threat. This curfew was for public safety. Who is safe? Two ambulances got called out to the scene. Why they safer for being subjected to this?

We really need to reexamine

future use of acre fuse if our interest is public safety.

Thank you.

>> thank you. Mr. Speaker. Hello, my name is seem on and I am so disappointed with the board of supervisors today. I went to the protest yesterday and they were peaceful and probably hundreds of cops outside the mission police

station right here and not a

single thing was thrown at them the national guard was at city

hall along with the it's people

calling them to be held account

and murdering and jessica

williams, alex and mario woods

and say their names and the sfpd retaliate against the young people high schoolers who >> next. Hello. organized the protest.

>> hello. Police chief scott and we are protesting you because we don't My name is career a and I'm trust you. 27-years-old and I live in the The sfpd waited to a group mission district in district nine. isolated that forced them to lay

I represented by hilary own an. Her cues have been used time and on their stomach for an hour and interrupted them for unlawful time again over the course of assembly which we saw on video history to silence the versus in on twitter even though they were going home.

the civil rights movements from Going home was exempt under the missouri, rodney sing and the curfew.

Chief scott said there was a days of martin euther king junior. tactical situation and there was We deserve acknowledge through a commitment to panning curfew so live video and nothing going on

besides sfpd intimidating people. long as the fight for justice continues indefinitely. We told you, board of supervisors, we told you and you didn't listen. We want accountability for all

arrests for violating this This board was too chicken shit racist curfew and the protests to take a vote. that have been targeted by What is that? police to be released.

We wanted a ban and excessive Supervisor fewer, save your use of force and no rubber tears about quote-unquote civil liberties because you don't have bullets and no tear gas in a an idea of what you are talking global pandemic effecting black people. about and my own -- >> that's enough. It has also come to my attention

that the san francisco sheriff deputies in riot gear held a line at city hall.

Some wearing thin, blue-line pins. Cut him off. A symbol used by white nationalist groups to stand in suppose sort of police and opposition to the black lives

matter movement so they were

banned by sfpd police when they were used in May.

I'm demanding an investigation into the heinous acts and I'm calling on you to push for the

firing and punishment of all officers wearing this badge of hatred for people pushing for justice and equity for all. In response to the journalist being detained in their rights

being so blatantly violated.

If this mistake is soen excuse able, where is the accountability for the officers

that made this mistake. Sfpd will you fire them? If the job is being a cop is so difficult and confusing for you, maybe we should get other people

who can do their jobs. Thank you.

>> next speaker.

>>

>> hi, my name is tyler I'm a resident in district 6. There's a couple things I want to bring up.

At the sit-in -- there was a sit-in tuesday night after the board decided to continue this item. I would be good for the board to

take some time and discuss what happened there and maybe ask the

chief questions about that as well.

I heard some rumours going around as far as that that there was a community roarer who was detained or maybe was about to be detained. So if we're going to be concerned about detaining journalists, which of course we should be concerned about, I think there should be some discussion of that as well. It May be that's just a rumour

but we should find out. Also, I appreciate supervisor haney's questions about the cost

of all of this but the facts in

that moment if the captain calls for 60 copps, 100 cops, how many

there were, I don't know, they came and the question that the cops will be sorted out later and I just wish that we could

have that same energy when this board requires for people who are sleeping out on the streets to be put into hotels that we

can find the staffing and the resource that's we need to make that happen and worry about the cops later instead of our mayor

saying it's not rel is tick to realistic to do that.

I saw on twitter, not a

journalist but someone trying to record during the cattling and arrest or a little bit before

the arrest last night. Two cops told him to get back and then started telling him to

run away from the scene and kept chasing him and threatening him with arrest so he turned the

corner sew couldn't get video and so -- I don't know if there's a chance for the supervisors to watch that video but I hope that you will go on twitter and try to find it and look into that as well.

This curfew has just given the

police so much more power and so much more discretion to enforce

it or not enforce it, however they chose and I don't think

it's making us any safer.

All of the things that are

crimes like looting and vandal

vandalism --

>> hi, my name is adam and I'm a resident of district 6. I was at the protest yesterday. They were peaceful. I understand where the chief was

coming from talking about the alt-right threat on instagram. The cops do have to be aware. You have to understand what the protest world is about is the

police being over milltarized. The police were much more restrained at this protest but

they refuse to engage.

The crowd and the mission loved it when officers took a knee but the vast majority were just

silent and just ignored the crowd.

It's my hope those officers who did engage don't face any backlash from within the department for doing so.

I am very concerned that the chief's story does not mesh entirely with what the reporter said. Nor does it mesh with the videos

that were made by some of the students as well as the reporter

published online and the

previous speaker, I saw the same

video of the police charging the citizen who was trying to record this massive event that was going on and the accountability

is the big thing. Oakland handled this protest way, way better than san francisco did. Ultimately, all of this adds up and the illustration is we have different perspectives and the problem is a lack of communication. People just want to be heard. If the police, any of the police

took the time to talk to people

today, we're concerned about and

engage with them understand what their concerns are. You wouldn't see these escalations and you don't need 60 officers literally running

down the streets from both sides

to corral a group of a dozen or 15 people.

It's not so much that we don't want police protection, we want police to be part of the

community and we want police to

be to protect and serve not to

rule over the community with an iron fist. Last, just to wrap it up, i

would say don't worry about accountability, at work, accountability and transparency happens.

It's ok to admit we made a mistake. >> thank you. Next speaker. And Madam Clerk g.

, go ahead and

call the next speaker. >> hi.

So, I wanted to ask how does

this feel for to tell you and teach you right from wrong and

how will you help reach justice for those who female victim to

police brutality and public racism?

How will sfpd make a difference

for our people and help the people reach our goals. You guys have sworn to protect

the people, correct?

This curfew isn't doing anything.

It's just preventing our rights. For those in the police department who say they support

us and stand with us and do

something, be here, leave the

field, and tell it again because

we treat people like people and

remember that how people are innocent until proven guilty no matter their racial background or ethnicity.

>> hi, my name is alexandra and -- hold on for just one second. I imagine you both are on the same phone call so let me turn off her two minutes and restart

the clock for two minutes for you. Are you ready. >> thank you. >> again your comments.

Here we go. >> go ahead. >> thank you.

There was much anxiety and feelings of doom to stay after

8:00 P.M. And I'm proud of us. Less than half of us that decided to stay. Yesterday changed my life forever. I hope my future children won't have to endure what our people

of colour have endured for so long.

I'm in a multi cultural sorry

sorority

and the youngest children was an

8-year-old girl named ary an. She was only eight-years-old

when she was shot dead in the

head while sleeping in her own home. They through a grenade and

realised her uncle was up stairs. Their supervisor even said that they did it wrong and it was just really shocking to realise

this so I really want to know what, how will you make sure our

officers will not be trigger

happy nor racist. This needs to stop.

And it needs to come from our home too.

I'm only 23-years-old and I live

in front of san francisco state. I am supposed to be graduating

this semester but I want to make

sure my future children know

that even going past curfew, if it's something that we need to

do we will do it and you see saw

that last night. Honestly, I agree with the

previous caller.

Asking us questions how we are doing, I don't think you guys

want to really see the solutions face-to-face. I didn't see any officers talk to us.

and I'm sure they were told not to.

I'm also an ex officer from when

I was much younger but I'm not

anymore and it's really

important for us to have a future where our children will

have to protest anymore for this because hopefully it will be over soon so it's not going to be over without a fight and you've seen those peaceful protests last night.

>> thank you for your comments. >> next caller, please. Welcome, caller.

You have up to two minutes. >> hello. My name is sean and I'm a resident of d9 and I hope that all the supervisors that were in

favour of leaving the curfew in

place are ashamed of themselves. They were sold by chief scott who admitted it hadn't been necessary the past few nights and only wanted in place because he didn't know what might happen

the next night which is the case every single night and that's how time works. Last night we saw a group of a dozen students heading home from

a peaceful protest surrounded by several dozen cops who made them lay on the sidewalk and wait until they decided it was time to arrest them. How does wasting the time of dozens of police officers who arrest students keep us safe? If there's a fear of loot being, why are we wasting time

harassing and terrorizing civically involved students

instead of, I don't know, watching for looting?

I'm disappointed with sfpd's actions last night.

In regards to detaining a journalist, chief scott claimed there was a lot going on.

There was more than one is over per protestors and they couldn't handle having a single journalist standing up. It's ridiculous. If they're that terrified of

being overwhelmed by a single journalist, maybe they should

look for a new job. It's an attempt to interfere with peaceful protests and I would be disappointed if I see the board of supervisors allowing the mayor to curtain

our rights in this matter ever

again.

You have up to two minutes. Welcome. >> yes, welcome. >> wonderful. Thank you, I live in district 10 and I was at the protest yesterday and I think it was a beautiful turnout.

I wanted to talk about the curfew and the police. I don't think there's discussion about the appropriate or inappropriate rules for curfew. It's a violation of our constitutional rights and that the board is even entertaining

this conversation is

embarrassing.

It's authoritarian and order is

only lost at the move in when

the police and checked and the

protestors didn't have tear gas

or -- they didn't have any weapons.

If we do chose to believe that there was some legitimate threat on social media that chief scott

was referring to, but he was unable to give his information

to the public, this gives the police the right to always have

the power to invoke a curfew. there can always be some unnamed

threat on social media.

On the matter of journalist the framing is incorrect and we shouldn't be concerned about a journalist being arrested. No one should be arrested at these events.

Also, if the police are in control of issuing so-called

press passes, then does that not effectively give the police

control as to who is or is not a

legitimate journalist in the city. I've requested the need for such

a system and if it does exist it

should be a citizen board.

And one matter, one final martha raddatz on

matteron the police. These protests are the violence the police have been committing

in people in this country since existence.

The police need to be demilitarized is effectively the solution.

Police should not have weapons,

tear gas, old military gear or anything of the sorts.

>> thank you for your comments. Madam Clerk. >> yes. >> hello.

>> welcome. >> thank you.

My name is brooke ashton and I'm

an mta student at san francisco state university.

I will stay as much on topic as it seems most of us have been

staying on topic. We are understanding that there's a deeper issue.

First, I'd like to address chief scott. You explained to us to the personal protective gear that the police were wearing was just to protect themselves.

I'd like to ask a rhetorical question, are you going to distribute this gear to all black and brown members of our society and our city and awful

us for that matter? My point is, please don lose

sight of what is really at issue here. You discuss police logistics but

the underlying issues remains namely the problematic nature of

the institution of the police.

I reiterate some of my prior callers.

We need to demill tar eyes the police.

You talk about civil unrest.

Address the root of the civil unrest. The institution of the police

and their racist and profiling tactics. Also, police chief scott, you keep talking about how your police get no days off and they're working overtime so you tell me you have fatigued

officers with no days off out there in high-adrenaline situations within a framework of white supremacy?

That is sounds terrifying to me. This is the issue, the institution of the police. I urge you to listen to black leadership and including the voices that spoke at the rally yesterday. There's plenty of policy out there to move forward. I direct you to movement for

black lives that's just one of many, many voices that officer

real solutions to move forward.

Thank you, very much. >> thank you for your comments.

>> before the next speaker, I'll

just state that we know there

are five others in the cue and about 58 of you listening and if any of you want to speak just

make sure that you dial star and

9 and that will get you into the

cue to speak. Can you send the next speaker through. Welcome caller, you have up to

two minutes.

>> Caller:   good afternoon supervisors and Madam Clerk. I have to say I'm heartbroken with our campaign right now but

I'm using progressive majority specifically the ones who voted

not to reject the curfew is your role at legislative branch to

check our executive branch. I rewatched the item on this on

tuesday meeting and hearing the

chief justify after the fact

that it was lifted was a

Inaudible:  . Thank you, sir.

If you concluded your comments, thank you. Are there other members in the cue?

Please send them through. Welcome caller.

You have up to two minutes. Welcome, caller.

>> Caller:   hello. >> hi there, welcome.

>> you have to two minutes, sir. >> ok. First and foremost, I think we

have to get one thing very

clear, our san francisco police

department and the board of

supervisors must understand that

the title of our law enforcement equals peace officers.

Now, we have to treat our youth

and young adults with care.

It's part of our democracy.

What happens here is your

supervisors talk too much. They confuse us.

and then the police chief and I

wrote it in my blog and told him

that he needs to spend more time

in the office reviewing the

protocols and allowing

experience in this field.

And it was shocking that our

youth, our journalists, our -- I have a press card. I don't show it.

I don't need to show it.

Because I know how to position myself.

This is someone who doesn't know

the role of the journalists, the

photo state and fundamentally

understand our democratic rights, maybe they shouldn't be in the police force.

And for that fellow for the

supervisors I see you don't know the difference between a curfew and emergency. The right definition.

You shouldn't be running for supervisors. That's all I've got to say.

My heart is very heavy and I'm

ashamed of you all. >> thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. >> welcome, caller, you have up

to two minutes.

>> Caller:   hi, my name is hannah.

I'm a resident of district 1, formally district 6.

I first want to thank the countless black youth activist and protest tears have put so much time and energy into the

fight for police abolition and

yes, we do not need reform or more money pouring into the police department.

We need to recognize the fragility of what the police base their power on.

Without their milltarized

equipment and supplies, they're powerless. They don't have the skills to solve issues within the community. We need social workers, mental health workers, we need to do

more outreach to the homeless and thank you matt haney for being one of the few people in the city that cares about that issue. We need to learn how to talk to our neighbours. Have empathy for those around us and instead of unpunishment. I am particularly disappointed until the taxes of london breed

and I call you to demand she act better. We've seen her text messages and

we know what she values and how she and the chief scott reform is not enough. We need to defund the police. As someone who has researched surveillance in data capitalism for years I want to raise concerns about the california highway police in particular.

Sfpd and the methods they're using to target protestors.

According to california state law, local police and chp they're using we're supposed to

be their bosses in theory and instead there's been aerial

surveillance and there's been data mining and they were

targeting people using drones around the park yesterday

according to the police scanner.

I just, this oppression of freedom of speech is really concerning to me and I think you guys all need to step it up. Thank you. >> thank you for your comments.

Next speaker, please.

>> welcome, caller.

>> Caller:   hello, I'm a resident of district 1. I am a simple question for the board of supervisors. How many times does the testimony of the police and the police chief need to be proven false before we stop taking their words at face value and

being used to justify a police state? They should take hours of testimony of victims of police violence and members of the

public who have observed police behaviour.

Rather than someone's job that justifying the behaviour

Inaudible:   On our streets. I'm done.

>> thank you for your comments, sir.

Next speaker, please.

Welcome, you have up to two minutes.

>> Caller:   hi. I'm actually one of the coordinators of the event

yesterday, no justice no peace sf. We organized this event as completely safe, completely peaceful. We were here to speak our voices.

I, alongside with sf youth, we organized this event to let people speak.

And, we're really at a loss for words for how our peaceful

protestors were treated yesterday.

I myself was listening to the

police scanner all night and I listened -- actually heard them talk about how they were going

to encircle them and arrest for all a the assembly.

It really just -- I was

updating, we were updating the

page but this is unconstitutional for --

[Please stand by]

Cape breton

>> I don't think they're being

effective as a tool for securing

property as I've had my person

vehicle nine times in three years

I think they're a tool for political repression.

When I gather with 15 of my

friends in a park and listen to

music, they have time to arrest

us.

But they don't have time to sort

out the missing car or the rape equipment.

They have time to beat us

merclessly and they have violent weapons but I don't think they

have masks. I

I don't think telling people not to gather in the park, I don't think that's a healthy decision.

I don't think what the police represent is healthy in our society.

I think they're a system of repressurion and mass

incarceration, criminally unjust

at a reinforced local and federal level judicially.

We can only look at varied

cases, such as brown palotta.

The subject of judicial

reinforcement has been recited.

This is criminally unjust and I

hope you know as you throw

chemical weapons in the faces of

your protesters, they might kill you with the same.

>> thank you, sir.

Next speaker, please. >> I would like to say that

these organizers, I'm so glad

that someone called and said

something from no justice, no

peace, sf because although you credit these organizers, you do not have the time to learn their

names or their organization's names exthey are

and they are doing the work for you, doing it well and you should listen to them regardless of age.

I attended the protest exit was extremely peacely.

The group I was with had to

leave early to walk home in time for fear of the curfew.

While we were doing this, we

were walking and came across a

massive number, about 40, 50 police just sitting, they weren't doing anything. They were on their phones, but

just the presence in share

sheer daylight was scarry. We asked them why they were here

and they said spell, only to act

on looting.

And then to see what happened

with the peaceful protest es protesters who

were not looting, was just very

disappointing and I hope you

hold yourselves accountable. >> to the 57 listeners in the cue, if any of you want to get

into the speaker's line, just dial star and nine. Right now we have eight

individuals in the cue and can

you send the next speaker

through, please. >> how often has a police officer been killed to people in

this city. The police are afraid of their

lives because the people are afraid of them. The police drive military vehicles.

At the protest two days ago, but

I think it was on monday, police

were flying down market street

at lord knows how fast they were going and hanging on the side of

these vehicles. The police should be walking in the nakeds

neighborhoods in which they live.

If we're concerned with people

committing crimes, why are we

not concerned with the crimes happening?

We should have the police

working to do financial auditing, to uncover the

economic crimes and un-justices in this city. The police should be defund asked

fundedand that should be funded towards therapists and folks who help the homeless. The folks should be used to build homes, that's an idea,

people who are homeless need homes. Let's do that. >> thank you.

>> thank you for your comments.

>> next speaker, please welcome

you have up to two minutes.

>> hi, my name is sonya and I

want to support the comments of

the previous speaker about disarmament, in particular guns. It's not crazy, other places have done it and I'm sure you

can look it up, just google disarming the police. I have a question in particular, though.

There were sheriffs, san

francisco sheriffs helping out

to do curfew enforcement and

protest suppression in oakland yesterday.

And so how did that happen? Does anybody here have an answer for that? Who made that decision and can the board of supervisors not make that decision any more?

thanks. >> thank you for your comment.

You have up to piano minutes.

Two minutes.

>> there are low income communities and racial filing is one thing but the most dire

problem is the excessive use of

force and military-grade weapons

on innocent tax-paying citizens.

We must not ignore that the fact that the investment in black communities is absolutely

necessary to promote positive

change in the eyes of the people. We need to educate police

departments to uphold their policies.

This uprising would not occur if corrupt cops were brought to justice.

We must convict cops who commit murder, period. Please protect the people over profits.

Thank you. >> people walking to the store

are harassed and arrested if they're brown and there should

not have ever been the massive policing that cbc over the past

few days.

The

.We have to come rely on these

systems because we're afraid of

racist things we're taught by the white supremests of this country and everyone who didn't vote to get rid of the curfew

should be deeply ashamed and

everyone should -- this is just

an absolutely abominable situation. I walked around my neighborhood

today and saw way too many cops and 90% of them had masks around their chins and not covering

their faces because they -- the homeless people who have no

where else to go while they

sweep them away while they have

nowhere to go and paying for hotel rooms that they're not allowed to anyone

and I'm ashame edto be

ed

shamed to be white in san francisco right now. >> there are three more members

of the public who are in line to speak and there are others who

are listening and this is our last call. If you want to raise your hand

and get in line to speak, please press star 9 now and then the system will prompt you when it's

your turn to speak.

Please send our next speaker. >> they chased groups of people around the mission trying to get home and sent them to a site on the waterfront with no way to get home and little transit access.

It was an absolute fierce. I've never been more disappointed in mayor breed and our board. You said this curfew would keep us safer, I heard you.

You used it to brutalize innocent people and money that

could have gone to your teachers when they're nationing hundreds

of millions in budget cuts.

Police reform, it was 2016 and the board of supervisors voted it down. Do not make the same mistake

again that you made this week and in 2016.

I think you can tell we have had

enough. >> next speaker, please.

You have up to two minutes. >> hi, Madam Clerk. I called in earlier and got cut

off and I spoke for 30 seconds

and I'm wondering if I could finish my comment. >> yes, we are awaiting your minute now

comment now.

>> so my name is curtis and I just want to say that I get what

a lot of the stuff that comes

through still hall, things that

have a lot of grey area and sometimes the information that the general public isn't privy to, but this is not one of those situations.

This was clear, cut and try. Any vote allowed to defensive our executive branch the ability

to enforce a curfew is inexcusable.

I was heartbroken by the so-called progressive majority and I am.

Many of you I supported as well.

You know, it get it sometimes,

people Miss A day and you cannot own up to.

Up can make

you can spend as much energy on

defunding or police departments. You should listen to the

organizers and other people in that city and work on a

community plan. Thank God for the true progressive supervisors for doing your job.

You really are the voice for us and we'll hold you accountable,

too, if you mess up, but for now you've been doing great.

>> thank you for your comments.

>> next speaker, please.

Welcome, caller.

>> my name is joshua and I live

in d6 and I agree with the majority of calls you had

tonight. Folks who implemented the curfew

should be ashamed of themselves. not only was the curfew was the wrong move off the bat but used

to detain innocent previousliers, thereby stripping

their right to free speech and .

After monday 64 of the 87 people arrested were released and all people arrested in close quarters during a time of

pandemic.

I am also for demill tarrizing and defunding the police force but I believe that's the first step.

I encourage all listeners to educate yourself on policing.

There is a book by policing and

ebook is free right now. I

I can't imagine I will have to

beat protesters with sticks and be in unsafe circumstances.

If I went to work and my boss told me that, I would quit on the spot. Police at this point are violent workers. We shouldn't demilitarize the police but abolish policing all together. I yelled my

yield my time.

>> next speaker, please.

>> I'm deborah and I'm from d6

and I want to agree with much of

what the last speaker said in terms of policing in san francisco. It's incredible to me that the

city has signed on to eight can't wait didn't we're still

seeing this type of policing, curfews being set.

I was a part of a peaceful protest on sunday, where the

police weren't wearing masks.

They were out if force and riot

gearing in my view to incite one of them

.One brannished a large baton when nothing was going on and

how it that no one on the sfpd

has warned that blue life matters to protests?

I've asked this of mayor breed,

where is it mayor has used,

based on the texts we've read

police sweeps in order to harass the people most vulnerable in

our populations?

I'm really, really angry and frustrated and amazed that people think we live in a democratic and liberal city. From the policing that I've seen

in the past ten, 15 years I've lived in san francisco, it's

only gotten worse is I believe in defunding police and being

able to have people homeless treated by social workers and

other types of services that just aren't there and I've seen

a big change since london breed took over because of the

organizing I do, I've had a lot of communication and engagement with the city.

I want this to stop, not in my name, we have to defund the police. >> thank you.

>> thank you for your comments.

Next sneaker, please.

Hello, can you hear me? >> I'm nick glenn. I live in district 7.

I want to start by thanking the youth organization and all of

the black and brown organizers

who lead the protests throughout the week who.

I wish I knew, but I feel like my thanks -- much of the board has shown and speaking of which,

I want to give a special shout

out to my supervisor, norman ye yee, because, dude, you can look

at our district, we were not near these protests.

Any fears you have of looting,

do not tell your constituents that any curfew would keep us safe.

Speaking of which, we have listened far too long to the

police department telling us that, oh, they have a crisis with covid. If that was true, they would not

be putting people that are unfairly arresting so close together.

If that was their priority, they wouldn't care about looting

anywhere near as much.

I think it is important to recognise when you are fighting a racist power, it is not enough

to not be racist, you need to be anti-racist.

The same goes for

for authoritarianism.

For the supervisors who still

serve the city, and thank you to

those who oppose the curfew,

show us you can be

antiauthoritarian leaders.

Stop aligning yourself closer to people like trump.

No one wants a city under danger, that's obvious.

So defund the police right now. Every single caller before me has said the same thing and a

lot of them said it better.

But I'm one more voice amongst the many.

Show us you can be leaders.

Thank you.

>> next speaker, please. Welcome, caller, you have up to

two minutes.

>> hi, there.

Black people who have been

oppressed by systematic racism are asking for change.

The protest yesterday was an

incredible display of immunity in the sanfrancisco community. I

police brutality should not be occurring at a protest against police brutality.

This is unconstitutional and problematic.

Demilitarizing the police is imperative.

If you needed proof, the protests yesterday demonstrated yesterday that 50,000 protesting and exercising their rights are

not a threat. The own only danger was the police presence. Take away their weapons and encourage cops to participate and stand with their community and train them to do the job they signed up for. Ensure peace and safety in our communities.

The officers who violated the constitutional rights of the

group of young teenagers last night should honestly be investigated immediately. Police are using their power to

arrest people to take away their constitutional rights to free speech. This is not ok. I urge you, please use your power as supervisors to insist

on changing the system, that is systematically racist and demand

for justice for these union.

Youth.

>> I was moved how the murder of george floyd affected you on a perm level

perfect level. Personal level. Many pizza

look no further to damage square

and market street, the chaos in

new york and leaders in the bay area.

This is a time for peaceful protests, the kids did it best yesterday.

It's time for mourning and time

for respect and I pray the city

of st. Francis has a peaceful week. Matt, thank you for putting this

on twitter and I say his name in peace, george floyd. Thank you.

>> thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Welcome, you have up to two minutes.

>> thank you, I'm rocky sharma with district 4.

Right now, I'm writing a letter

to mayor london breed email

because I see there's a huge divide between public is professional sentimentses.

And I realize that london breed is overprotective of casing a

curfew on the society she wants to protect from covid-19 and

other crimes that May occur

especially because we have seen if more of the looting happens

after sunset and my question is

really about, what is dividing

people from converging their thoughts together at this point because there's so much emotional response behind all of this? And that brings me to the question want is going on at the police academies that get police

to have a mindset when they're

on the job of doing the things

that we've been watching happen

and what we've been witnessing?

The police academy is where

education for policing starts.

And so at this point, I see why

there's military influence to help structure the police department in the different way,

but at the same time, issue have

to wonder, what's gone wrong

with the training at the police academies for so many years and

how can those be corrected?

>> thank you, sir, for your comments.

Next speaker, please.

>> yes, welcome caller.

>> I was at mission station and I'm one of the organizers. I'm glad I don't live if the mission because I happened to walk in the opposite direction

of the poor kids that got encircle asked arrested

circled is arrested.

This helps the police to intimidate and terrorize black

and brown people in our city and the antithesis of what the

protests aim to change.

One of the most powerful chants is we don't need you. What does that many?

I urge you to not only end the

curfew but to stop this.

>> we don't need you and it is incredible that we elect people

through the machine as so

bravely brought the public

opinion this morning in her dialogue. All of this should completely reassess the ways in which you are representing your constituents and take note from the real leaders of this community, like supervisor

preston and hainey and ronen and

I yield my time.

>> welcome, caller. >> I actually thought the police

did ok up until the last part of last night where they arrested people for no reason. We would be living in a different universe right now if they just, like, hadn't done that.

there might have even been some

sort of civic pride in our city

for how well our police force comported itself relative to the rest of the nation. This is a big, missed

opportunity for us to just lose the threat and just arresting

teenagers last night.

I was in awe how well the

protest had gone and how little

conflict there was on the street

and how well our city was representing itself, only to lose the threat in the wee hours

of the night is I hope we can do better. I yield the rest of my time. >> thank you for your comment, sir. >> next speaker, please.

Welcome, caller, you have up to

two minutes. >> we cap

can hear you, welcome.

>> my supervisor is Mr. Mandleman and I'm a teacher and I'm very disappointed that you supported the curfew because ultimately,

that has been used to arrest students who were peacefully

protesting and I understand that

the majority of your district is

rich and affluent and I

understand if

you want to protect

the people you know up to vote for you every single time but

you're responsible for

therepercussions of what that did. That's the problem with this city. >> sir -- >> you are all democrats. >> perfect, address the board as

a whole, not bid members.

Please

london breed nominated two people for the commission that should not be considered right now.

All of you are democrats. It's ashame, it's an absolute shame.

I yield the rest of my time. >> the so-called bliss commission should be staffed

with members of citizens of the city, with the actual people who

live in the city who have to

deal with the police and I upset understand about the folks being

nominated by london breed but the people appointed by the citizens of the city.

And I implore the folks on the

board to really think about how many times we're going to have to do this dance with the police.

We take what they say at face value, history continues to reveal they never tell us the truth.

We give them the benefit of the

doubt and we give no one else the benefit of the doubt.

>> thank you for your comments.

>> next speaker, please.

>> welcome, caller.

>> I would like to admonish the

board for a caller earlier using profanity.

What is profane is to provide

money from their own pockets

while sfpd gets toys to pay with.

It is profane that people are

living a dehumanized life where

they harass and abuse them at the beheft of mayor breed.

If you do not find that profane,

you should be removed from your seat.

Defund the police.

Black lives matter.

>> next, speaker, please. Next speaker, please. >> con

>> can you hear me, ok.

>> I'm a resident of d6. If we had a time machine and could look at the city leadership ten years from now,

the supervisors and mayor, I'm confident every single one will have had a role in organizing yesterday's protest. Their passion, determination and

ability to get stuff done so far

and above the capabilities of our current board. Imagine the force they will with

another ten years of experience.

You can watch our legacy be torn to threads.

The call is yours.

>> next caller, please. >> I would lick like to make another comment.

The only reason why the police

did not escalate during the protest is they were outnumbered

or we would have had a situation where more people experienced

what the the activists and the

journalists experienced last

night. Why weren't more resources

directed to the actual threats?

Last night's police were getting paid $192 an hour and this is where the money is going. What technology is being used? What units are brought in from

other areas and you need to be more transparent with what's

going on. It's an embarrassments.

Black lives matter. Fuck you.

>> each speaker is allowed two minutes.

In this virtual world, we can't

tell who's who and I didn't purposely cut the last speaker

off to provide her important

comments but for the next speakers, if there are, I think,

we have a couple more left in the cue and we're willing to

take your comments.

Can you send the next speaker through? Welcome, caller, you have up to

two minutes.

>> I want to say thank you to

the organizers of the no-justice, no-peace protest

yesterday that I attended and to iterate I'm a san francisco

resident, as well.

Everyone that showed up

yesterday in the midst of a

pandemic, as others have said,

I'm angry and disappointed in the way officials and police

have handled this time and it's

also frustrating that this

happens on an every-day basis, that racism happens on an

everyday basis. And people are just starting to talk about it. And it happens everywhere, not

just in this city. Where are the investigations and

where is the justice in all of

in?

The police with the tremendous budgets are the resources for social work and mental health resources. I personally don't understand the need for police presence at

these demonstrations, especially

because they're peaceful.

And a curfew that is

unconstitutional is not a reason

to use force on citizens and should not have happened. To reiterate, a few things

people have said, it was time to

show more progressive approach that generally, but not always,

our city is known for and to set

an example.

and I want to know where the

benefit of the doubt for these

young protesters that were

arrested and that's given to everyone without a mask, putting other lives at risk.

There seems to be a divide there.

And just to end, black lives matter.

>> thank you for your comments. >> the next speaker, please partnership

.I think we have two more listeners who would like to provide public comment.

Welcome.

>> is that me? >> thank you for the opportunity

to comment just on this procedure. When you're in the cue, it's

hard to know the next speaker up

and it would be great to have an advice, you're second up or

third up. >> there is a prompt in the system. I have not started your time

yet, but just for those people who can actually follow the system if your television is

loud, it is hard to hear that delegate prompt on the phone, but I'm glad you made it through.

If you don't know if it is your

time to speak, say, hello, can you hear me and I will always

respond.

>> my comment is, I thought the protests that were lead by these students were beautiful and it

really gave the feeling of san

francisco again.

And

one of the other things we're feeling is the cops are being paid too much money and we have more cops than we need.

we have to have real reform on that. So black lives matter.

We're in trouble. Please help us out, supervisors. >> thank you.

>> thank you, sir. There are 47 listeners and one person in the cue and this is our last call. I will say if you are interested

in speaking, just press star 9.

>> they failed to turn us

violent as we peacefully protested and exercised our first amendment rights.

Be were told by leadership that this police presence was

necessary to prohibit our free

speech.

The system is wrong and

unsalvageable and in the

meantime, we must reinvest in

the cultures that are competent.

Today's youth-lead protests that

our best days are ahead of us.

>> I was disgusted to see that

the mayor agreed to a curfew and endangered black and brown residents and the resources were

used to lock up a child. I couldn't even sleep last night because I kept thinking about all of the children out there. Who so bravely organized that March yesterday and wondering

what the police were going to do

to them when it got dark. Unacceptable for there to be curfews endangering the children

of our city.

>> Clerk:   next speaker,

please. Welcome, caller. >> hello. My name is maggie. I'm resident in san francisco.

I am a doula, and I was

following the protesters from

my residence in district 8 and over the police scanner.

I want to commend the

organizers of the protests that

I saw. I saw san francisco really at

its best, but one comment over

the scanner really stood out to

me, and that was when an officer said we could just arrest them now, and that was

when it was late at night and young people were out. Curfew was used as a tool to

end the workday, but justice

does not call it a day. Justice waits it out, and if

that curfew had not been in place, san francisco could really shine in this country right now as a way for people

to speak up about the changes that they want to see and the police accountability that they see in their cities. I yield my time. Thank you.

>> Clerk:   thank you for your comments. Welcome, speaker. You have two minutes. >> hi. My name is evan.

I'm a resident of the district, in district 1. I was listening to the committee hearing earlier this

week about curfew, and I'm just really sick about hearing again

and again our so called progressive supervisors that

show undue deference to chief

scott and to the police force when they absolutely do not deserve it. Nothing they say should be

taken at face value, and I just keep hearing it again and again.

Just earlier, my own supervisor, supervisor fewer

was defending the curfew and

the police force. When I see just the massive

waste of money when we're

seeing a huge budget shortfall

and seeing hundreds of cops to enforce the curfew, and seeing

our supervisors back this up, I just find it absolutely unacceptable and sickening.

The real question we should be debating right now should be how much we should be cutting from the police budget when

we're facing a budget shortfall

and when we're cutting classes at kr

ccsf and when we're still in desperate need of programs like

homeless services and housing.

I have to say I'm pretty upset

about the site that I saw at

pier 50 for massive arrests,

and sites like that and in chicago where people have disappeared for days just opens up the possibility of abuse and

curtailment of rights and so we

really need to rein stuff like that in immediately. Thank you.

>> Clerk:   thank you for your comments.

Next speaker, please.

I believe, Mr. Qu, this is the last speaker. >> hi.

>> Clerk:   hi. Welcome.

>> I just called in to say that

this should not be used against

people that are protesting, it

would be used against those that are looting.

Police followed a group of

about 10 or 12 kids who were on their way home.

I watched them follow one kid

all the way down valencia, and also, why do you have a detention center at pier 50, and how much money are we

spending on that, and did you arrest people to justify that detention center?

Any ways, this shows that the police cannot handle more discretion. They don't need a tool, and they definitely don't need this tool. Thank you very much.

>> Clerk:   thank you for your comments. Thank you. Mr. President -- oh, we have

one more caller in the queue. Welcome.

You have up to two minutes. >> hi.

I'm ryan, I live in district 8,

and I work in district 9, have an office on the ground floor

of valencia street, and I have

to say, I felt more unhappy and upset about any potential damage to my business because the police were out last night.

Everything about the protests

seemed peaceful from every

vantage point, and I have been with police solidarity about the other callers who have

called at this meeting and the other callers this week.

This curfew is crazy and unconstitutional, and it just

needs to stop. Thank you.

>> Clerk:   thank you for your comments. Next speaker. I know there is one more caller in the queue. You have up to two minutes. >> thank you. I just joined this, so I might

be reflecting earlier comments,

but I just want to echo that

this curfew has, from what I've observed, living near market street, has done nothing but

silence peaceful protesters. I was part of a peaceful

protest that I know of. On tuesday night, I know that several people were arrested.

I know that in the mission last

night, over 60 police officers surrounded teenagers, did not

let them go home?

I don't understand how this is using discretion, and a

response to, you know, the

justification for looting and and whatnot, and I've been

really unhappy with the city's

response and its investment in

increased police force at a

time that we are very rightfully distrustful of police. That is it.

>> Clerk:   thank you for your comments. Mr. President, I believe that

is the last speaker in the queue.

>> President Yee:   thank you, Madam Clerk, and thank you for

the public comments.

>> Operator:   that is correct.

>> President Yee:   thank you for the public comments, and now, what I'd like to do is

entertain a motion to table the items, that is. >> second.

>> President Yee:   did anybody make a first?

>> Supervisor Fewer:   I make a

motion to table the items. Fewer.

>> President Yee:   okay. Fewer.

Is there a second to table? >> Supervisor

Mandelman:   mandelman.

>> President Yee:   okay. On roll call vote, please.

>> Clerk:   on the motion to table -- [Roll Call]

>> Clerk:   there are ten ayes.

>> President Yee:   okay.

Then the motion passes to table both filings.

Colleagues, thanks for being on

this meeting, and there were many things said. One of the things that sort of

stood out for me in the public

comments, several people made comments around the communication between people

that were out there yesterday

and with law enforcement, and it's something that I've seen

lost through the decades of the our police officers were

probably less engauged with the community.

Chief scott, I hope you heard the comments and take this as an opportunity to start engaging with the citizens that are out there.

I know we used to have much more involvement with the police officers, the individuals. And I'm not talking about

during work hours. A lot of times, it's just after work hours, so it's just another further announcement

for you, so at this point, colleagues, this brings us to

the end of our agenda.

Madam Clerk, is there any further business before us today?

>> Clerk:   that concludes our business for today.

>> President Yee:   thank you, Madam Clerk. As there is no further business before us today, we are adjourned. thank you, everybody.